Reincarnated as Kaido, married Big Mom, and formed a dual-Emperor pirate crew.

Chapter 119 Interests Have No Value Before the Foundation of Rule

Sonny's rejection didn't displease Dorrag; he grinned and then asked:

"Speaking of which, why did you join the Beasts Pirates?"

"You used to be a mafia boss in the West Sea, you must have lived a very comfortable life, right?"

"Is it because of ambition? Or some other reason? Or is it simply for the sake of adventure?"

Sonny's eyes flickered slightly. "Why are you suddenly asking this?"

"Because of curiosity, no, to be precise."

Dorag's joking expression instantly turned serious.

"I want to end this chaotic world of pirates!"

"Don't misunderstand, I don't mean to kill all the pirates by physical means; that's unrealistic."

"The Navy has been established for many years, but the scourge of pirates has continued from ancient times to the present day and has never been eliminated."

"I don't think the reason lies in the navy's ineffective anti-piracy efforts; there must be a deeper reason."

"So I'd like to learn more about you pirates."

"Understand your code of conduct, and understand the specific reasons why you are going to sea."

"If we can nip the impulse of people to go to sea and become pirates in the bud, the scourge of pirates will one day disappear from the seas completely!"

"That's what I think, so please tell me!"

Upon hearing this, Sonny's opinion of Dragon instantly underwent a complete 180-degree change.

This does indeed seem to be a rather excellent navy.

At least he wasn't like those naval lackeys who blindly believed in the concepts of justice and evil without distinguishing right from wrong; he seemed to genuinely have his own thoughts.

Thinking of this, and also considering the need to buy time for his men to rest, Sonny said, "Because when I was in the mafia, I was just a dog, but now, I'm a human!!"

Dorrag sat cross-legged on the roof, his face serious.

"I would like to hear the details!"

Sonny then began his long-winded explanation.

"I was born into an ordinary mafia family in the Kingdom of Bessel. My father was a small-time boss, and my mother was an ordinary housewife..."

After recounting his struggles in his youth, almost an hour had passed.

"I became the godfather of the Capone family, the black glove hidden in the shadows by the Kingdom of Bessel."

"This wasn't actually my intention; I wanted to become a politician!"

"The Kingdom of Bessel has very favorable natural conditions. As long as those wastelands are cultivated into fertile fields, all the people will be able to eat their fill and become wealthy!"

"If we temporarily suspend grain exports for two years, we will be able to turn to positive profits, the grain will increase, and the kingdom's commerce will become more and more prosperous."

"Even after handing over a large amount of heavenly gold each year, they can still retain a lot of wealth."

"I recommended my opinion to the royal family and nobles, but none of them were willing to take it."

"They said, what right do you, a member of the mafia, have to care about such things? The kingdom's policies are naturally the best and don't need any changes!"

"I am completely baffled by this."

“My proposal did not touch the interests of the nobles. I did not want to reform, but only to reclaim wasteland. In fact, much of the wasteland was their territory. Why would they refuse?”

"This question remained unanswered until I was 30 years old, when I met a navigator who had traveled to many islands and he solved the mystery for me."

He said: "For nobles, the most important thing is to ensure that their wealth can be passed down from generation to generation, rather than the prosperity of the country and the wealth of the people!"

"For the nobles, the most important thing is to ensure that the lower classes have enough to eat so they don't starve to death, but without having enough strength to rebel!"

"While my proposal did not infringe upon the interests of the nobles in terms of benefits, it greatly threatened the foundation of their rule in terms of power."

"Because the number of troops that nobles are allowed to possess is limited, once the population becomes too large and the number of rebels becomes too large, they will not be able to suppress them."

"Therefore, the nobles of the Kingdom of Bessel would rather maintain the status quo than cultivate new land!"

"Because they are nobles, the masters of their lands, they will never go hungry, and their lives will always be luxurious."

"As for the common people and slaves who starve to death because of food shortages... what does that have to do with them?"

"In fact, it was their plan to let the lower classes starve to death on a large scale."

"Because if too many people are alive, it will threaten their rule..."

As he listened to Sonny's long-winded explanation, Dragon's expression gradually became serious.

As a child born in the Kingdom of Goa in the East Blue, he deeply understood this feeling.

The situation there was far worse than in the Kingdom of Bessel.

"Later, Captain Kaido appeared..."

Sonny changed the subject, and a light seemed to appear in his eyes.

"He was like a dragon, and his spiked club shattered everything I had resigned myself to."

"Although joining the pirate crew wasn't exactly pleasant, he really did wipe out all those corrupt old nobles!!"

"Furthermore, after establishing the new Dragon Kingdom, he redistributed land, encouraged childbirth and land reclamation, and abolished slavery..."

"Although he has always said that he wants to turn everyone in the world into his slaves."

"But if the world really became like that, I feel it might actually be better than it is now..."

After that, Sonny began to talk at length about the details of the Dragon Kingdom's various new policies.

Dorrag listened patiently.

He certainly wouldn't think Kaido is a good person because of that.

But after listening to Sunny's account, his opinion of Kaido did change considerably.

'If what Kaido says is true, and the whole world only needs to support him...the world might actually be a better place?'

Dragon was fantasizing in his mind.

After all, there is always a limit to how extravagant a person can enjoy.

As long as they don't resort to terror tactics like killing and massacres all the time, a few dozen Berries from every person in the world would probably be enough to support Kaido, right?

……

Time passed by, minute by minute, as the two chatted.

When Dorrag suddenly came to his senses, he realized that it was already dusk.

"I arrived at 8 a.m., and it's now around 4 p.m.... Eight hours have already passed?!"

Dorrag looked up at the sky.

"Kaido isn't finished yet?!"

There was a look of horror in his eyes.

"Is this even human? Surely it's not deliberately stalling for time?!"

"Ah~ Ah~ It feels so good to have a good night's sleep!"

One of the Beast Pirates, who had short sleep durations, stretched and walked out of the house.

"Ah~ it's already dusk, it's about time to prepare dinner."

Dragon watched helplessly as the once desolate town gradually began to come alive, but Kaido still did not appear.

Until all the pirates had gotten up, lit bonfires in the empty square, and were preparing to start a barbecue feast.

Kaido then slowly descended from the sky, carrying the unconscious Bakkin in one arm and the equally unconscious Makima in the other.